The other forum

[wingman]

I use to visit wilders everyday for some informative info, now it seems like watching a re-run of a tv show that has been seen many times. I hope this forum takes off in a new direction (from wilders), with more useful information and less moderator censor.

[Little Lady]

Welcome ~ hope you enjoy our freedom of speech here

[wingman]

Thanks for the welcome. I will try not to get out of line.
Everyone has been very helpful.

[Ruhe]

...one year later and a growing number of members, I think we then have similar problems

[ssj100]

Hopefully not Ruhe, since this forum will only attract the best kinds of people right haha.

[wat0114]

In fairness, moderation is necessary, otherwise things will get out of hand in a big hurry. It is tough for them to always handle certain wayward threads properly, although I do sometimes feel they react in knee-jerk fashion.

[wingman]

I guess you heard about Online armor being bought or taken over by Emsisoft, Mike sold out.
Anyway he seemed like a nice guy, but at the other forum (wilders) you should see the sycophancy going on, like a bunch of little girls waving goodbye to mommy. Really sickening. Well that's my two-cent's. Another reason I hate that place, full of sheeples.

[ssj100]

I guess you heard about Online armor being bought or taken over by Emsisoft, Mike sold out.
Anyway he seemed like a nice guy, but at the other forum (wilders) you should see the sycophancy going on, like a bunch of little girls waving goodbye to mommy. Really sickening. Well that's my two-cent's. Another reason I hate that place, full of sheeples.

Haha, man I didn't know that Online Armor was sold out to Emsisoft. That's not surprising though. Online Armor is a piece of software that few people would buy or even use (including the free version). It was a question of when, not if.

It will be interesting to know how Emsisoft continues developing/supporting Online Armor. I wonder if the Online Armor programmers will be preserved etc? Thing is, I reckon the only reason Online Armor had a contract with Emsisoft in the first place was because they were losing competition (despite the haters at Wilders continuing to make Comodo appear bad) to Comodo. Fact is, Comodo now have an extremely solid security suite that pretty much matches Online Amor Premium (some could argue it's better...it now has a solid sandboxing mechanism which works very well when combined with Defense+). I would say 99%+ of people out there who are interested in a suite with a classical HIPS will swing to Comodo. I feel that those that swing to Online Armor are the minority - just look at the Comodo forums - there are over 100,000 registered members there (about the same number as Wilders...and Wilders hosts at least 4-5 paid security software).

Anyway, thanks for the news:
http://ssj100.fullsubject.com/security-f7/online-armor-sold-to-emsisoft-t152.htm

[wingman]

I guess you heard about Online armor being bought or taken over by Emsisoft, Mike sold out.
Anyway he seemed like a nice guy, but at the other forum (wilders) you should see the sycophancy going on, like a bunch of little girls waving goodbye to mommy. Really sickening. Well that's my two-cent's. Another reason I hate that place, full of sheeples.

Haha, man I didn't know that Online Armor was sold out to Emsisoft. That's not surprising though. Online Armor is a piece of software that few people would buy or even use (including the free version). It was a question of when, not if.

It will be interesting to know how Emsisoft continues developing/supporting Online Armor. I wonder if the Online Armor programmers will be preserved etc? Thing is, I reckon the only reason Online Armor had a contract with Emsisoft in the first place was because they were losing competition (despite the haters at Wilders continuing to make Comodo appear bad) to Comodo. Fact is, Comodo now have an extremely solid security suite that pretty much matches Online Amor Premium (some could argue it's better...it now has a solid sandboxing mechanism which works very well when combined with Defense+). I would say 99%+ of people out there who are interested in a suite with a classical HIPS will swing to Comodo. I feel that those that swing to Online Armor are the minority - just look at the Comodo forums - there are over 100,000 registered members there (about the same number as Wilders...and Wilders hosts at least 4-5 paid security software).

Anyway, thanks for the news:
http://ssj100.fullsubject.com/security-f7/online-armor-sold-to-emsisoft-t152.htm

Supposedly, the programmers are staying, working for the new boss. Will try to find the link again. Look's like Comodo is in heaven now.
Now I am on OSSS, like it much, version 1.5 release is out not as buggy as Outpost7, but both are slow as snails with new releases. I just don't like "free" security products, paranoid yes. Free is never really free.

[ssj100]

I just don't like "free" security products, paranoid yes. Free is never really free.

Does your paranoia apply to software like Winamp, CCleaner, chat messenger programs (eg. Pidgin, Windows Live, Miranda etc), ImgBurn, Adobe Reader, Foxit Reader, VirtualBox, VLC Player, and probably thousands of other reputable software that millions use.

Fact is, Comodo doesn't get income from us. As far as I know, they get most of their income from selling security certificates to web-sites etc. I guess as a by-product, we (the consumers) get Comodo Firewall/Antivirus/Internet Security Suite for free. Can't complain about that.

If anything, in my opinion, there should be more trust with Comodo being free (we sort of know how they get their income). For many other freeware programs (like the ones I mentioned above), I have no idea how they get their income.

[wingman]

I just don't like "free" security products, paranoid yes. Free is never really free.

Does your paranoia apply to software like Winamp, CCleaner, chat messenger programs (eg. Pidgin, Windows Live, Miranda etc), ImgBurn, Adobe Reader, Foxit Reader, VirtualBox, VLC Player, and probably thousands of other reputable software that millions use.

Fact is, Comodo doesn't get income from us. As far as I know, they get most of their income from selling security certificates to web-sites etc. I guess as a by-product, we (the consumers) get Comodo Firewall/Antivirus/Internet Security Suite for free. Can't complain about that.

Yes, except for CCleaner, VLC. Never, ever would I put Adobe Reader on my computer. That's a whole other topic. Besides, I'm talking about security programs such as Firewalls and AV's (don't use AV's). I am not bad mouthing Comodo, when all my paid for companies are run into the ground, Comodo will be there, hopefully. Thanks for the info about Comodo.
Here are a couple of interesting links about OA.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Softpedia-Exclusive-Interview-Emsisoft-Takes-Over-Online-Armor-145966.shtml

http://onlinearmorpersonalfirewall.blogspot.com/2010/06/online-armor-sold-to-emsisoft.html

[wingman]

I am paranoid about the usage of the word "free", in all my life there was always a catch to the word "free", read the fine print I am told. I am to lazy to do that, it will put me to sleep faster than reading the side effects of Ambien.

[ssj100]

Fair enough to have your opinion, although you're using freeware haha - CCleaner and VLC Player (don't quite understand why you're only particular about security freeware...shouldn't they be more trustworthy than random media players and registry/junk file cleaners?). By the way, how about Microsoft Security Essentials? That's an Antivirus which is completely free for life (although you could argue that you've already paid Microsoft by using a Windows OS).

[wingman]

Fair enough to have your opinion, although you're using freeware haha - CCleaner and VLC Player (don't quite understand why you're only particular about security freeware...shouldn't they be more trustworthy than random media players and registry/junk file cleaners?). By the way, how about Microsoft Security Essentials? That's an Antivirus which is completely free for life (although you could argue that you've already paid Microsoft by using a Windows OS).

Yeah it's just me, don't know how to explain except that when I pay, I expect better. If that's true or not, it is the way I feel.
Can you convince me to use Comodo, I have tried it when ver. 4 came out, the problem is the sandbox. How does this compare to SBIE? Is it worth throwing SBIE away for Comodo's? I am just interested in a great firewall for inbound and outbound connections, how is Comodo for this? Is there any evidence this is a superior Firewall? Not talking about HIPS. (please don't bring router up)
Thanks.

[ssj100]

Yeah it's just me, don't know how to explain except that when I pay, I expect better. If that's true or not, it is the way I feel.
Can you convince me to use Comodo, I have tried it when ver. 4 came out, the problem is the sandbox. How does this compare to SBIE? Is it worth throwing SBIE away for Comodo's? I am just interested in a great firewall for inbound and outbound connections, how is Comodo for this? Is there any evidence this is a superior Firewall? Not talking about HIPS. (please don't bring router up)
Thanks.

You might want to create a new topic about this. I'll just say that Comodo's sandbox can't be compared to Sandboxie. Nothing can for that matter haha. Also, why specifically do you want to have outbound connection control?

Feel free to continue discussing stuff like this here:
http://ssj100.fullsubject.com/security-f7/discuss-security-setups-and-approaches-here-t6.htm